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Joined: 08 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:24 pm    Post subject: Heart and Soul  

First the heart (Lee) and now the soul (Darren) have been ripped out of Yeovil Town by Mr Webb to be replaced by.......... his son !!.

Thanks David is this your QUOTE "vast experiance and knowing what actions need to be taken ".

A very sad day for Yeovil Town and I fear there are more sad days to come.
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Somertonian



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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

Poppycock.

The club has peaked - for now at least. WHN knew it and the players knew it and now they have moved on.

If anyone is to blame, perhaps it's JG-W who sold the club to DW. How much money would it have cost to keep the team together? We cannot afford to compete with Hearts (SPL money) and Swansea (taxpayer's money). If a chairman is in a position to throw money at a club then fine. I think it's healthier to run a club on sound commercial foundations.

Let's get behind DW, ST and the team.

:)

Sl
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Sussex Glover



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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject:  

To be fair to Webb, and im no more of a fan of him than most people... but imo the person to blame is the bloke that decided last year, and all the other ones for that, that its a good idea to keep giving players 1 year deals. I mean surely the risk of them not making the step up and being sold isnt as bad as the crap thats going on now... i mean if not for the whole squad, but for the key players at least who are more than likley to make it. Im so pissed off at the moment
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Mr G



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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

We got promoted, that's the crux of the matter and was there honestly the certainty that all these players that you suggest should have been given long contracts would have made to step up, answer IMO no. If they hadn't then we would have been stuck with them, paying inflated wages while they lanquished in reserves or having to pay the remainder of their contract up. I think our promotion made it very much a no win situation. :cry:
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Somertonian



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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

We could pay more if the crowds were bigger (!!!)

With hindsight, I think having so many key-players out of contract at the same time was foolhardy.

:)

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Yorkshire Glover



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

Having so may players out of contract at this time of the year has been our usual practice. IMO we are paying the price for success.

If we take some perspective most of the players have been with us five seasons or more. Its inevitable having risen 2 divisions with the same squad that other Clubs would run the slide rule over our players, particularly the good ones.
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Wayne Deranged



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

At last some sensible and reasoned comments; a refreshing change from all the hysterical claptrap that's been littering this forum. Maybe DW will be bad for this club and maybe he will be good, but he's only been in place a couple of weeks, how much influence on proceedings do you think he has had? The transfer window was always going to be problematic for us; ST has already stated that there has been a general reluctance to sign new contacts and I think that many players, and our former manager, feel that this club has progressed as far as it can at the moment. So far, we have lost three players. Efe, was finding it difficult to get in the team and, IMO, has cost us a few points recently with penalties conceeded ( we're not short of defenders, anyway). The loss of Jonno and Weasel is more problematic, as we don't really have cover for them, Cohen aside, however, both have made good moves, personally, with the chance of playing at a higher level and we should wish them well. £150,000 for Weasel, who has not played a game for weeks is, I feel, not a bad return. £50, 000 for Jonno is dissapointing, but remember all three players left of their own free will. The signing of Webb junior has, understandably, upset many supporters, but he hasn't been given a chance yet. He may not even make the first team but, if he does, I'm sure he will have to prove himself, just as would any player.
There was widespread panic after Addo left and we lost five of our best players, but that worked out alright, didn't it? Have some faith, cut out the hysterical negativity, and give Webb a chance to make his mark. If it goes the way that most of you seem to think it is already, I will join in your calls for his head, but it's much too early to panic.
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macphisto



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

Good points well made, there's certainly too much hysteria at the moment.
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Ilchlover



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

All valid and fair points BUT we CANNOT replace lost quality with other clubs cast offs and hope to continue with the good run we have had the last few years. I agree that we must have faith and trust in DW but that is growing very hard to do. He has a grey history and until he proves otherwise that is all we can make our assumptions on. I dont agree that we are in a state of hysteria. Loyal supporters are genuinely worried and are getting no assurrance from our new owner. Only he can stop all this by making a statement whether it be good or bad, or by showing his intentions by carrying out some form of positive action for the club for us all to see.
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bowerboy



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:40 pm    Post subject:  

macphisto";p="1636 wrote: › docWrite("quote")
Good points well made, there's certainly too much hysteria at the moment.


There may be a little hysteria at the moment but it has to be said that the worry at the begining of the season if our squad had strength in depth? Our squad has been depleated in such a way already over the last few weeks that we are right to question the way in which it has been done and what has so far replaced the players who have exited. Webb and Afful, wil this be the last time those two names are used in the same sentance? :evil:
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Wayne Deranged



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

I've just listened to the interview with David Webb of 31st December 2005 and, it seems to me, he was pretty open about his plans for the club, where he sees it going, (holding up Crewe as an example), his reasons for buying into the club, the need for off the field development, wage structures and keeping the club on a sound financial footing. On the playing front he stresses the need for a more balanced squad, and recruiting players who are developing rather than looking abroad. This seems like a reasonable policy to me, as long as, ( and this is my only real concern with the situation, at the moment), he doesn't undermine Steve Thompson's authority. Interestingly, he also expressed his desire to keep Darren Way at the club. I would urge anyone bemoaning the lack of a statement of intent, including The Western Gazette, to listen to this again. It doesn't sound, to me, like someone intent on 'raping' (Forum admin's word, not mine) the club. Of course, whether you choose to believe him is up to you, but, if you don't, what is the use of him bringing out another statement?
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shmoggie



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

The last week has seen us adopting the normal lifestyle for league clubs. We have been lucky to only lose Gavin Williams in recent years. Look at the transfer list on bbc and you will see many examples of young improving players moving up the ladder to bigger clubs who can pay more. Our status is one where we must either take on old players moving down the ladder, poach from clubs below us with its associated cost, or adopt the dwebb philosophy of picking up ambitious rejects and perceived talent. I have anjoyed watching the lively attacking athletic style of Yeovil for the last 6 years or so and so favour the last of these alternatives. I have grown very attached to the club, but if I do not like what I see in the coming weeks, I will be moving on, as will many others and the gate receipts will drop significantly. I wonder what the market value of a part-used college stand season ticket is!
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Ilchlover



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

Statement of intend! I have also read that transcript but the concern at present is that as i have said, we all need to see some positve, not negative action before any sort of faith can be placed in this man. As for "looking for players who are developing". Where are they? The two we now have now IMO have developed to their best ability already. Hence they are not worth anything and several previous clubs obviously feel the same. Im not sure i like the word "raping" in any sense and personally feel thats quite a vile thing to acuse anyone of in any context but i would say IMO he appears ]to be lining his pockets at present before putting the future of HIS club first. I dont know what the club finances are like but surely with all this money coming him from sales we should be able to afford at least one decent player without breaking the bank. At the end of the day he needs to speak out one way or another.
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Tb_yeovil



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

Quote: › docWrite("quote")All valid and fair points BUT we CANNOT replace lost quality with other clubs cast offs and hope to continue with the good run we have had the last few years

I presume you mean cast offs from clubs that are a league or more lower than ourselves. I would love to see more "cast-offs" of the Poole/Harrold mould. However, at this dire time, that may be a bit to optimistic.
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Ilchlover



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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Heart and Soul  

Yes, sorry, that was a confusing phrase. I did mean lower leagues. If they cant hold their own in those leagues then what makes DW think they are up to the job with us? Christ, i certainly didnt mean Jevo and Matty.
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